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Leigh Stein's avatar

We can discuss this more over beers, but I agree with you totally and I think there is undeniably a bias against novels by straight men in publishing. Everyone will deny this, and point to the men who published big novels in… 2008. Alex Perez was publicly shamed for expressing similar ideas. And book influencer loves to brag about “reading books by women” as a form of activism but folks, MOST novels are by women! It triggers my inner rebel who wants to start bragging about how many novels I read by men.

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Elsie's avatar

I’m sure this comment will be decried for displaying the same female attitude as that being caricatured in the piece itself, but the argument here seems to be that if we want male vulnerability, we have to accept male misogyny. Men would rather be silent (and comfort themselves with the cape of silenced victimhood) than change. Many readers may well find misogyny unpalatable (though there is also a growing and increasingly mainstream market for misogyny, if not yet in literary fiction), and to cast that as some kind of snobbery or prudishness is wilfully reductive. It should be unremarkable that hatred and dehumanisation are unpalatable. Has the writer tried to put himself in the shoes of the women who make up the vast majority of editors, agents and readers, and imagine how it would feel to trawl through pages of that kind of hatred? Would he expect members of any other group to do so without turning a hair?

It’s too easy to cast anything that might be labelled “woke” as shallow and insincere. There are good reasons many readers have turned away from certain kinds of voices. It’s not just peevishness. It may hurt some writers’ feelings/ they may experience it as rejection, but sometimes rejection is a good opportunity for self-reflection.

For what it’s worth, I run a writing group (mainly amateur) with a roughly fifty-fifty gender balance. About half the men who submit do submit sci-fi, but about half submit what would probably count as sadboy. Elements of both have been misogynistic (and when that’s been the case, it’s been critiqued as frankly bad writing: flat, stereotypical characterisation, motivations that lack credibility, gratuitousness), but far from all of it has been. If the writer does think that if we want male vulnerability, we have to accept male misogyny, he’s telling on himself. Not all men hate women. But perhaps many of those railing against their rejection by the female dominated publishing industry do.

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